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olaolaking:
Read from verse 5 to 8. They were not speaking unknown languages

What they heard was the interpretation.
That's the only explanation for all of them understanding the Holy Spirit-inspired utterance.
, they were amazed they could all understand at same time. If someone was speaking Yoruba would you be amazed to understand him if you are Yoruba?

Moreover if they were speaking known languages, they wouldn't have been accused of being drunk. Which implies they were speaking gibberish.

I'm not even being religious here, I'm only being logical.

Read 1cor 14:18

olaolaking:
The go further and make reference to any of the disciples or apostles that did spoke in tongue. The speaking in tongue was an event of Pentecost 33ce. Point to an occasion where the apostles spoke in tongue that is not related to the event of Pentecost 33CE

This is not entirely correct.
I agree that all the answers are in the Bible. "Word upon Word, Percept upon Percept".
The Bible also talks about speaking in "an unknown tongue".
In 1 Corinthians 14:2, the scripture states that speaking in an unknown tongue is not directed towards men but towards God, as no one understands it. However, in the spirit, the speaker utters mysteries. This verse highlights the belief that speaking in tongues is a spiritual act, primarily a form of communication with God, rather than a way to communicate with others in the church.
Another reference to one "speaking in an unknown tongue edifies himself" comes from 1 Corinthians 14:4, which states that while speaking in tongues is beneficial for the speaker, it's the gift of prophecy that edifies the church. Edification in this context means spiritual building up or strengthening.

Kobojunkie:
1. Why would anyone need a special language to communicate with this God you refer to? Does he not understand human language? Or is he hard of hearing?

2. But how do you know that whole setup isn't a scam?

3. That sounds like a scam used by those who wish for people to accept gibberish without question, don't you see?

1. Satan is the acc of the brethren, so Christ needs to cut him off that we can have justification before God.
Revelation 12:10
[10]And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the acc of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
speaking in unknown tongues is like pressing the block button on Instagram, you don't get trolled by the person you blocked again.
2. Virtually, everything on earth can be abused and used for scam which is normal.
3. That there's fake means there's original. Original must exist before fake. If there's no original there can never be fake. For instance, there's no fake 5,000 naira note because there's no original yet.

Who can interprete mashatabalabalabala tshakabalabala. for me.
There is one student pastor that use to use that line repeatedly when praying.

Danisaint112:
WHAT YOUR PASTORS WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT SPEAKING IN TONGUE

Acts 2:1-4 (NIV)
"When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Let's get into more details.

Acts 2:6-11 (NIV)
"When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Utterly amazed, they asked: 'Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?

Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!'"

This clearly indicates that the "tongues" spoken on the Day of Pentecost were actual, recognizable human languages, miraculously understood by the foreign-speaking individuals present.

So when you hear your pastor saying shabahbahbah! just know it's lies. 99.9% of the time they are trying to fool you.

If no one around there can understand what they are saying or have ever testified to understand what they are saying, then it's a lie. The are simply faking it.

I'm not a deeper life or Jehovah witness member but I know this. It's just common sense.

All the answers you need is in the Bible, let no man fool you. I come in peace.

That is not the only place the Bible talked about tongues. In 1corinthians 14, it talked about the interpretation of tongues. If there is need for interpretation,then not all tongues are of recognisable language. In the original greek translation of the bible, 'others tongues ' actually mean 'of uncertain affinity ' or not naturally acquired. The things of the spirit are mysteries.

Geesunny:
That is not the only place the Bible talked about tongues. In 1corinthians 14, it talked about the interpretation of tongues. If there is need for interpretation,then not all tongues are of recognisable language. In the original greek translation of the bible, 'others tongues ' actually mean 'of uncertain affinity ' or not naturally acquired. The things of the spirit are mysteries.

Paul's ideas regarding the interpretation of tongues are just that, his ideas. In Acts, when the original disciples spoke in tongues, there was no interpretation of tongues necessary, as there were individuals who understood what was being spoken, even though the message contained did not seem directed at them or of great relevance to them. What Paul was instead going at was the use of the phenomenon to disturb others, especially during their commanded assemblies...yes ... YHWH of Israel commanded meetings/holidays which all Israelites were expected to observe.

Jesus Christ of Israel, the one you all conveniently love to ignore, gave His followers that feature -- the speaking of an unlearned language -- to his followers --- as a sign to other Israelites that they belonged to Him. However, your religion of Christianity instead succeeded at weaving other ideas into the heads of its gullible masses by way of its numerous interpretations of the simple words spoken by the man named Paul, whose only intent was to argue for decorum at their many gatherings where they, Israelites, lived.

Geesunny:
That is not the only place the Bible talked about tongues. In 1corinthians 14, it talked about the interpretation of tongues. If there is need for interpretation,then not all tongues are of recognisable language. In the original greek translation of the bible, 'others tongues ' actually mean 'of uncertain affinity ' or not naturally acquired. The things of the spirit are mysteries.

So this is a reason so called men of God should fake it right? Keep playing. My stance is simple. Speaking in tongues actually exist but 99.9% of the time it is faked.
DO WITH THIS INFORMATION WHATEVER YOU WISH. Don't quote me again.

Danisaint112:
✓ So this is a reason so called men of God should fake it right? Keep playing. My stance is simple. Soeaking in tongues actually exist but 99.9% of the time it is faked.
DO THIS INFORMATION WHATEVER YOU WISH. Don't quote me again.

Have you ever met a single case that is not fake though? None of these in the religion of Christianity can have the real thing because they are all fakes.

smokinloud:
1. Satan is the acc of the brethren, so Christ needs to cut him off that we can have justification before God.
Revelation 12:10
[10]And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the acc of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. [/b]
speaking in unknown tongues is like pressing the block button on Instagram, you don't get trolled by the person you blocked again. [b]
2. Virtually, everything on earth can be abused and used for scam which is normal. That there's fake means there's original. Original must exist before fake. If there's no original there can never be fake. For instance, there's no fake 5,000 naira note because there's no original yet.

See what religion has reduced a mind to, abeg!

➜ Is this the same Satan who, in Job 1, approached YHWH when the Sons of YHWH approached Him, and was eventually commanded by YHWH to torment Job?
➜ Is this the same Satan who, in Zechariah, was said could only be rebuked by the Lord — even the angels could not directly rebuke Him?
➜ Is this the same Satan who, in Matthew 4, directly approached and tempted Jesus Christ of Israel, only to be then rebuked by Him?
➜ Is this the same Satan who, in Luke 22, Jesus Christ of Israel announced had asked to test His followers like a farmer tests his wheat?

The Satan in the Scriptures you all pretend to quote from is a lot different from the Satan your religion of Christianity continues to throw around. I mean, they are completely different personalities entirely.

Well, at least you it that your religion of Christianity's idea of speaking in tongues is completely removed from that specified in Israelite Scripture by Jesus Christ of Israel, which is instead simply to serve as a sign of affirmation for those who belong to Him. I wonder what you Christians are busy blocking with your copy of speaking in tongues.

2. However, a scam can never become or take the place of the original much the same way the religion of Christianity, with its many non-Israelite church fathers, can never come close to the original movement that was started in Jerusalem of Judeah almost 2000 years ago by Jesus Christ of Israel for His fellow Israelites.

Themanleshey:
➜So what is the essence of speaking in tongue when I want other people to hear me?
➜ I can just speak in English or my native language now?
➜ You don’t get it ? Go and read your Bible and stop arguing.

Dude, your religion of Christianity speaking in tongues has nothing to do with the idea of speaking in tongues presented in the Israelite Scripture. Jesus Christ of Israel, who bestowed it only on His followers — all of them Israelites, by the way — gave it to them as a sign.

2. No one stops you from speaking those languages since they are learned by you to communicate with others around you, right?

3. I do get it! The religion of Christianity, by way of its numerous doctrines and traditions, has led you to believe that these rituals you practice in your churches are connected to Jesus Christ of Israel when in fact they are not. Nothing of what you argue connects at all.

Hotbloodz:
➜This is not entirely correct. I agree that all the answers are in the Bible. "Word upon Word, Percept upon Percept". The Bible also talks about speaking in "an unknown tongue".
In 1 Corinthians 14:2, the scripture states that speaking in an unknown tongue is not directed towards men but towards God, as no one understands it. However, in the spirit, the speaker utters mysteries.
➜ This verse highlights the belief that speaking in tongues is a spiritual act, primarily a form of communication with God, rather than a way to communicate with others in the church.
➜ Another reference to one "speaking in an unknown tongue edifies himself" comes from 1 Corinthians 14:4, which states that while speaking in tongues is beneficial for the speaker, it's the gift of prophecy that edifies the church. Edification in this context means spiritual building up or strengthening.

Stop deceiving yourself! In the Book of Acts, we learn that some of the people in Jerusalem on pilgrimage around the time of Pentecost understood what the disciples, who had been speaking in tongues at the time, clearly said. So, does this not throw this powerful wrench into this belief you have that the speaking in tongues illustrated in Israelite Scripture, which is the actual speaking of a human language — Xenoglossia— in any way resembles the gobbledegook your religion of Christianity also refers to as speaking in tongues— glossolalia?

2. YHWH's own Spirit communicating by way of an unlearned human language with YHWH? Jesus Christ of Israel who simply said it was given as a sign to those who belong to Him is always ignored in these things, I notice. a clear indication that the religion of Christianity value His words a lot less than they do the numerous doctrines and traditions — lies — of their many gods of men.

3. Why do you folks feel the need to add your delusions to what is written? Where do you get this impression that this spirit needs what you consider building up or strengthening?

smokinloud:
➜... Paul was a minister to the gentiles not the Jews alone.
2. Jesus never said they'll speak the language that already existed. Your interpretation is baseless and you're attacking strawman.

1. According to Israelite Scripture, the Gentiles are Israelites who are not descended from the Jewish Tribes of Israel — mainly Judah, Benjamin, and Levi—, the inhabitants of the nation of Judah. The problem here isn't Paul's mission but rather the convenient twisted delusion of those who are of the religion of Christianity, who instead insist Gentiles were non-Israelites, the same people Jesus Christ of Israel warned His followers not to give that which is holy— the Gospel — to.

2. I forced no interpretation here, and there is no strawman in any of what I stated there. According to Jesus Christ of Israel, the sign(not special powers attached wherein), those of His followers who belong to Him(children of God) would speak languages which they were not taught. A language is, at its base, is essential form of communication between at least two individuals, usually human beings, and meant for the ears of individuals, usually humans. This was confirmed in the Book of Acts, where on the day of Pentecost, the followers of Jesus Christ of Israel broke out in tongues which were clearly understood by people who were in Jerusalem around that time for the annual pilgrimage. These languages had to have existed for them to have been heard by the people who heard them at the time. Insisting that Jesus Christ of Israel instead meant a new language amounts to suggesting the language learned was not meant to be understood by other humans, and that, again, is false from the example we are given of its application in the Book of Acts.

smokinloud:
3. You keep acting like a twvt. You deleted my comments banned me and then attacked statwman. Let me repeat the question, "How do you know the word 'Shabahbahbah' doesn't have meaning in any language or defunct languages on earth, have you studied all the languages on earth"?
4. Lol, the subject matter isn't about ISRAEL and ROME I don't know why you have to always attack strawman when you can't address the point.
5. Thanks for confirming the fact that GLASSOLALIA, Indeed, means speaking in tongues that doesn't make sense to Humans. GLOSSOLALIA IS THE GREEK WORD USED IN BY THE BIBLE AUTHORS FOR SPEAKING OF TONGUES. SO THE BIBLE AUTHORS MEANT THAT BABBLING IS INVOLVED WHEN WE TALK OF TONGUES
6. I'm glad you are not denying the fact that speaking of tongues is gibberish in human sense as against who I quoted, who believes every tongue must be existing language.

3. I deleted your comment and banned you? By what authority was I able to carry these out? Someone is seriously high on delusions here! By the way, look up the meaning of the term "Strawman" so you do not keep misusing it. 🤣🤣

4. It is given that the religion of Christianity, which you are a part of, has no direct or indirect connection to the original movement that was begun by Jesus Christ of Israel in Jerusalem in the land of Judeah. You keep making reference to the book of Israelite scriptures, making it imperative that the differences be made clear.

5. Wrong! The Bible writers insist that YHWH's idea of speaking in tongues involved the speaking of a complete language that is not learned — Xenoglossia— whereas the religion of Christianity instead suggests its version, which is a repetition of syllables and sounds — Glossolalia — is what is obtainable. These are two completely different things.

6. Speaking in tongues, according to the religion of Christianity, is speaking in gibberish —glossolalia. This is not unique to Christianity, however, as even voodoo worshippers are known to practice some of the same, only they don't refer to their ritual as speaking in tongues like the Christians do. Neither do patients who, during psychotic episodes, are recorded babbling away, refer to such babbling as speaking in tongues. Only the Christians do that.

smokinloud:
7. Again, you attack strawman. My point is that BABBLING is taught in the bible and it edifies our spirit as Apostle Paul said.
8. JESUS CHRIST DIDN'T ESTABLISH RELIGION OR MAN MADE DOCTRINE. HE BUILT HIS CHURCH AND BUILT IT ON SOLID FOUNDATION, THE APOSTLES, THAT THE GATE OF HELL CAN NEVER PREVAIL OVER IT.

7. There is no babbling recorded in Israelite Scripture since it is instead confirmed that what they spoke was languages understood by those who came into Jerusalem from other foreign lands during that same time in history.

8. That is the crazy religious lie you were fed. However, according to Israelite Scripture, there is only one Rock in all of Israel is YHWH. Jesus Christ of Israel was born as a Jew to worship according to that same Rock; He openly itted this to all of His followers. And it is on this Rock—not a human being— that Jesus Christ of Israel founded His Church.

Your religion of Christianity, however, has its roots in the doctrines and traditions established by your non-Israelite church fathers. They fashioned this belief that the rock that Jesus Christ of Israel had to have been referring to was a man named Peter and other humans, without knowing what purpose and place the Rock held in the lives of the Israelites, whose ideas they attempted to plagiarize. That is why you keep insisting that mere humans can serve as rocks for YHWH when the same YHWH is, several times, portrayed as a God who breaks down the rocks of men, prevailing as the Rock of ages.

Mmm

olaolaking:
➜The go further and make reference to any of the disciples or apostles that did spoke in tongue. The speaking in tongue was an event of Pentecost 33ce. Point to an occasion where the apostles spoke in tongue that is not related to the event of Pentecost 33CE

Wrong!

The power that was given by Jesus Christ of Israel was given as a sign to follow those who belong to Him. Being a follower of Jesus Christ of Israel is an eternal walk for His followers, hence, the sign is itself an eternal sign, not a temporary sign as you pretend. Recall, the same Jesus Christ of Israel also declared that His Word is EVERLASTING — Eternal in orientation. This implies even that which He gives is eternal.

Stop fishing for excuses for why what Jesus Christ of Israel gave to His followers DOES NOT feature in your religion of Christianity, as the obvious answer is that your religion has no connection whatsoever to the movement started in Jerusalem of Judeah by Jesus Christ of Israel— a movement that comprised only Israelites.

Ezemann:
➜If you want to teach about speaking in tongue, the right scripture to use is the 1cor 14:2 it says New International Version
For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. The book of Act is a jounalistic book. we cannot build doctrine with the book of Acts.

But the no one understands them claim is false, given we know from the Book of Acts that many who were in Jerusalem on pilgrimage from their home countries understood clearly what the disciples, who had been speaking in tongues on the day of Pentecost, were saying. The message contained in their speech may not have been directed at the people in the vicinity, but the people clearly understood the words that were being spoken at the time.

Whatever Paul meant by his opinion expressed in 1 Corinthians 14 vs 2, one thing is clear, and it is that there must have been a context to that statement which, when ignored, renders the statement false. I suggest you look for and include that context to make sure you have a good idea of what he meant.

Kobojunkie:
Wrong!

The power that was given by Jesus Christ of Israel was given as a sign to follow those who belong to Him. Being a follower of Jesus Christ of Israel is an eternal walk for His followers, hence, the sign is itself an eternal sign, not a temporary sign as you pretend. Recall, the same Jesus Christ of Israel also declared that His Word is EVERLASTING — Eternal in orientation. This implies even that which He gives is eternal.

Stop fishing for excuses for why what Jesus Christ of Israel gave to His followers DOES NOT feature in your religion of Christianity, as the obvious answer is that your religion has no connection whatsoever to the movement started in Jerusalem of Judeah by Jesus Christ of Israel— a movement that comprised only Israelites.

I don't understand this junks o

olaolaking:
✓ I don't understand this junks o

You don't understand what is clearly stated in the Gospel... This won't be a first as that is the reason why the religion of Christianity boasts of over 46,000 different interpretations/denominations regarding even the simplest of ideas expressed in that book of Israelite Scripture. 🤔

jayAjoku:
the same kumuyi that said television is the devils box and then started using the same devils box? make una dey mumu una selves

The man is a fraud but that doesn't remove from the fraud that is the speaking in tongues ritual of the religion of Christianity.

You literally repeated what I said. Why did you just single out a verse instead of reading to understand the full chapter?

It's the universal problem most Nigerian believers have. That's why it's difficult to understand these things.

pavlovt:
You people should study Bible small now.
There are tongue of men and there are tongue of angels.
Tongue of men can be recognized by men in their dialect e.g I learned of a German that came to Ilesha in 30s and finding it difficult to communicate then switch to tongue - lo and behold he was speaking in Ijesha language.

Tongue of Angels even devil is confused because you communicate directly to God through the help of holy spirit.

1 Corinthians 13:1
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.