NewStats: 3,263,903 , 8,181,809 topics. Date: Sunday, 08 June 2025 at 04:58 PM 5n1xq

franugo:
The goal is PR, all these temporary placements are getting more precarious

Just curious
What does "PR" mean and why is it important as a resident in Canada that you achieve this status. Please educate us

Deport them all

Fake news

handsomeyinka:
There's always a way out of every situation especially we Nigerians,our strength to survive and making it out of challenges still surprise the western world..

Peace Out to enjoy the holiday weekend.

The question they will now ask is....
Why don't we apply these "strength to survive" where we come from ?

Just saying

BouquiLake:
It's ironic how we perceive these oppressors as helping us when they open their borders with enticing visa schemes. They cleverly use us to develop their countries, and once they've achieved their goals, they tighten the restrictions on us with stricter visa requirements. They take the best of our talent to maintain their status as developed nations while draining the resources from so-called developing countries, ensuring they stay underdeveloped. I've been around for over 50 years, and I've never seen a developing country successfully transition to a developed country. It's quite disheartening! See what is happening in the US, UK, Canada, etc

Hmm, God bless you.
You captured the core of this issue so aptly. The entry requirement into most of these countries are designed to it only the best. Depending on your migration route, you may never be able to remit any reasonable money to Nigeria in the first 2-3years. Meanwhile you’re there rendering essential services. The truth is that in an equitable world, most of these countries should be paying for migrations. I have a strong feeling that Nigeria graduates more doctors yearly than the UK or Canada does and most of these so called “half-baked doctors” find their way into these countries within three year. Yet no foreign universities have campuses in Nigeria. The countries that have low entry barriers are equally struggling economies like ours.
It is heart breaking, Africa has ABSOLUTELY NO leader or elder state men
country,

Dollyak:

Well I am hoping to buck this trend soon by bringing certain expertise to naija.Watch this space.

Whatever you do, I would like to be a part of it. I have followed you for some time and find most
Of your contributions irably.

BouquiLake:
It's ironic how we perceive these oppressors as helping us when they open their borders with enticing visa schemes. They cleverly use us to develop their countries, and once they've achieved their goals, they tighten the restrictions on us with stricter visa requirements. They take the best of our talent to maintain their status as developed nations while draining the resources from so-called developing countries, ensuring they stay underdeveloped. I've been around for over 50 years, and I've never seen a developing country successfully transition to a developed country. It's quite disheartening! See what is happening in the US, UK, Canada, etc

deep

RodgersAkpafu:


The question they will now ask is....
Why don't we apply these "strength to survive" where we come from ?

Just saying

Logic.

Another way of asking "why we can't develop our societies"?

AngelahFlo:

Just curious
What does "PR" mean and why is it important as a resident in Canada that you achieve this status. Please educate us

PR is permanent resident. If you get it, it's almost like you're a citizen of the country, pretty difficult to offload you with just cause.

franugo:


PR is permanent resident. If you get it, it's almost like you're a citizen of the country, pretty difficult to offload you with just cause.

Wow
That's interesting. Then why do some of our Nigerians go there of temporary permit work visa. Is it that they were ignorant or just the lure of Japa(ing) that blinded their eyes

WeirdAlien:
Always trying to copy UK until they suddenly realise that their country is much different.

Is US and other western countries that are trying to limit immigration also copying the UK?

If you want a sure and secured path to immigration to Canada, go as a PR. All these temporary visa and stuff too get wahala. Canada wants to reduce temporary residents in their country (students, workers on temporary/work visa etc) and it is understandable.

BouquiLake:
It's ironic how we perceive these oppressors as helping us when they open their borders with enticing visa schemes. They cleverly use us to develop their countries, and once they've achieved their goals, they tighten the restrictions on us with stricter visa requirements. They take the best of our talent to maintain their status as developed nations while draining the resources from so-called developing countries, ensuring they stay underdeveloped. I've been around for over 50 years, and I've never seen a developing country successfully transition to a developed country. It's quite disheartening! See what is happening in the US, UK, Canada, etc

Then the developing countries should retain their best brains by offering them better incentives. Nigerian politicians are the only ones enjoying the resources of the country. A situation where the national assembly will budget billions of naira to renovate the national assembly complex while our best brains in health, engineering, IT etc are being paid peanuts is not sustainable (that's if they even get employed). They will go to countries that value their skills.

AngelahFlo:

Wow
That's interesting. Then why do some of our Nigerians go there of temporary permit work visa. Is it that they were ignorant or just the lure of Japa(ing) that blinded their eyes

Not everyone can meet up the requirements for Canada PR. Those that can't get PR will try other routes to canada like student visa or temporary work visa.

The truth is that Canada has announced that they want to reduce the number of temporary residents in their country. So, they have reduced ission of international students and have reduced intake of temporary workers. They deports temporary residents whose visas have expired (like students who have finished school and their Post graduate work permit have expired)

The best way to immigrate to Canada is to go as a permanent resident (PR). Once you are a PR in Canada, nothing concern you concern deportation or your visa expiring. And in 3 years, you can apply for Canadian citizenship.

AngelahFlo:

Wow
That's interesting. Then why do some of our Nigerians go there of temporary permit work visa. Is it that they were ignorant or just the lure of Japa(ing) that blinded their eyes

PR isn't easy to get

Amayabor1:


Is US and other western countries that are trying to limit immigration also copying the UK?

If you want a sure and secured path to immigration to Canada, go as a PR. All these temporary visa and stuff too get wahala. Canada wants to reduce temporary residents in their country (students, workers on temporary/work visa etc) and it is understandable.

No. UK generally has more confidence to limit immigration when the USA is doing something similar.

WeirdAlien:


No. UK generally has more confidence to limit immigration when the USA is doing something similar.

Stop lying. The UK's immigration policies has never been tied to US immigration actions. The US generally have no issues with immigration. They have issues with illegal immigration at their southern border with Mexico. You will never hear the US say they want to reduce the number of immigrants coming into the US for studies (like UK and Canada). If you are legit, you can enter the US. The US has never had an issue with legal immigration. But for Canada and the UK, they have reduced legal immigration into their countries and the UK is taking it a step further by making you spend 10 years in the UK before you get an ILR. Saying the UK has more confidence to limit immigration when the US does something similar shows you don't know what you are talking about as the US doesn't limit immigration. They are trying to limit illegal crossing at their southern border unlike the UK that just don't want anyone to come to the UK, whether legal or illegal.

Also saying Canada is always trying to copy the UK shows you have no knowledge of the issue at hand. All these countries are trying to deal with their own immigration headaches, and you think one country is copying another. Lol.

Are you referring to Memorial Day?

Amayabor1:


Stop lying. The UK's immigration policies has never been tied to US immigration actions. The US generally have no issues with immigration. They have issues with illegal immigration at their southern border with Mexico. You will never hear the US say they want to reduce the number of immigrants coming into the US for studies (like UK and Canada). If you are legit, you can enter the US. The US has never had an issue with legal immigration. But for Canada and the UK, they have reduced legal immigration into their countries and the UK is taking it a step further by making you spend 10 years in the UK before you get an ILR. Saying the UK has more confidence to limit immigration when the US does something similar shows you don't know what you are talking about as the US doesn't limit immigration. They are trying to limit illegal crossing at their southern border unlike the UK that just don't want anyone to come to the UK, whether legal or illegal.

Also saying Canada is always trying to copy the UK shows you have no knowledge of the issue at hand. All these countries are trying to deal with their own immigration headaches, and you think one country is copying another. Lol.

Read my words well, I said "more confidence", not that they follow after US. What that means is "more moral justification so they don't look like racists or mean". It's all about "not looking like the bad guy!"
And that UK is trying to limit legal immigration is all media sentiment for the govt to look like they're doing something. What they have simply done is to make it a lot more expensive, and take in the most highly skilled labour. Getting your ILR in 10 years means as an individual you would have spent over £12k on visa fees and IHS in addition to all the taxes you've paid, stuck on the same job, while you have no entitlement to any benefits.
UK has no local labour force - most are approaching retirement age - they need immigration to keep their system running. If all immigrants in UK go on one week strike, the whole system will collapse.

And why do western countries copy? It's simple - once one country closes its borders, immigrants will rush to the other. So they will all appear to close their borders at the same time.

WeirdAlien:


Read my words well, I said "more confidence", not that they follow after US. What that means is "more moral justification so they don't look like racists or mean". It's all about "not looking like the bad guy!"
And that UK is trying to limit legal immigration is all media sentiment for the govt to look like they're doing something. What they have simply done is to make it a lot more expensive, and take in the most highly skilled labour. Getting your ILR in 10 years means as an individual you would have spent over £12k on visa fees and IHS in addition to all the taxes you've paid, stuck on the same job, while you have no entitlement to any benefits.
UK has no local labour force - most are approaching retirement age - they need immigration to keep their system running. If all immigrants in UK go on one week strike, the whole system will collapse.

And why do western countries copy? It's simple - once one country closes its borders, immigrants will rush to the other. So they will all appear to close their borders at the same time.

You still do not get it and I will explain.

1. Like I told you before, the UK has never based its immigration policies on whatever is happening in the US. Both countries are not even close. Both are not in the same continent that you will say what UK does will affect the US or what US does will affect the UK. US has no issues with immigration. So I don't know what US is doing that will be giving the UK more confidence to limit immigration. Pasts and present US governments do not have policies to limit people from coming to the US. Their own is that don't come through the southern border. So, where is UK getting it's confidence from? If the US is trying to limit legal immigration into the US, you can say the UK is learning from them. But that's not the case. Moreover, it is Trump who has really made immigration (illegal immigration) a big issue in the US. The UK for years (well before Trump became president) has always come up with one immigration policy or the other. So, I don't know why you think the UK will need to get confidence from the US when the US is not doing what the UK is doing immigration wise and when the UK has been enacting several immigration policies for years, long before illegal immigration became a topic in the US.

Your last statement actually buttresssed my point. European countries can copy each other because they share land borders. But nothing concerns the US or Canada with immigration issues in the UK. So, when you say Canada copies the UK in immigration issues, it is laughable. If UK close its borders, you can't just walk into Canada because Canada is not in Europe. You will have to undergo all the rigorous process for visa application just like people from other countries. The UK has only one land border, and that is with Ireland. So, what happens in Ireland can affect what happens in UK in of immigration, so both countries can copy each other. But to say Canada that is not even close to the UK is copying UK immigration policies is funny.

All the other talk about UK labor laws, ILR etc are not what we are talking about. My point is that European countries can copy each other in of immigration so people from one country does flood the other country. But not Canada. It's like saying Australia copies UK immigration policies.

Amayabor1:


You still do not get it and I will explain.

1. Like I told you before, the UK has never based its immigration policies on whatever is happening in the US. Both countries are not even close. Both are not in the same continent that you will say what UK does will affect the US or what US does will affect the UK. US has no issues with immigration. So I don't know what US is doing that will be giving the UK more confidence to limit immigration. Pasts and present US governments do not have policies to limit people from coming to the US. Their own is that don't come through the southern border. So, where is UK getting it's confidence from? If the US is trying to limit legal immigration into the US, you can say the UK is learning from them. But that's not the case. Moreover, it is Trump who has really made immigration (illegal immigration) a big issue in the US. The UK for years (well before Trump became president) has always come up with one immigration policy or the other. So, I don't know why you think the UK will need to get confidence from the US when the US is not doing what the UK is doing immigration wise and when the UK has been enacting several immigration policies for years, long before illegal immigration became a topic in the US.

Your last statement actually buttresssed my point. European countries can copy each other because they share land borders. But nothing concerns the US or Canada with immigration issues in the UK. So, when you say Canada copies the UK in immigration issues, it is laughable. If UK close its borders, you can't just walk into Canada because Canada is not in Europe. You will have to undergo all the rigorous process for visa application just like people from other countries. The UK has only one land border, and that is with Ireland. So, what happens in Ireland can affect what happens in UK in of immigration, so both countries can copy each other. But to say Canada that is not even close to the UK is copying UK immigration policies is funny.

All the other talk about UK labor laws, ILR etc are not what we are talking about. My point is that European countries can copy each other in of immigration so people from one country does flood the other country. But not Canada. It's like saying Australia copies UK immigration policies.

I see you have trouble understanding. Or maybe you never read my comments.

Immigration matters don't gain much media attention within the UK. But the moment Trump was building walls (first term), immigration talks started trending in UK media. Now again that US is talking (since the Trump campaigns), immigration talks became even louder in UK, everyday GBN is all about it. They express more moral justification for introducing more restrictions.

UK doesn't have land borders but thousands arrive by sea in boats, seeking asylum, Ukrainian refugees were taken in, Afghanistans too, and other Arabs. I live here, I know what's going on. Despite that, most immigration restrictions are for workers and students to pay more - not to prevent them from coming - it's all a smokescreen by the govt.

Also, you need to understand that globally, immigration from less developed countries are mostly from India, Pakistan and the middle East - those people are a experts in circumventing any country's immigration policies. The have strong community ties unlike Africans. So once a country closes its borders, they will simply switch to another. Doesn't matter if it's Europe or America - they will get there. They have strong networks.

US on one side. Canada is the next most attractive English speaking country to immigrants after UK. So they take cues from what UK is doing.

WeirdAlien:


I see you have trouble understanding. Or maybe you never read my comments.

Immigration matters don't gain much media attention within the UK. But the moment Trump was building walls (first term), immigration talks started trending in UK media. Now again that US is talking (since the Trump campaigns), immigration talks became even louder in UK, everyday GBN is all about it. They express more moral justification for introducing more restrictions.

UK doesn't have land borders but thousands arrive by sea in boats, seeking asylum, Ukrainian refugees were taken in, Afghanistans too, and other Arabs. I live here, I know what's going on. Despite that, most immigration restrictions are for workers and students to pay more - not to prevent them from coming - it's all a smokescreen by the govt.

Also, you need to understand that globally, immigration from less developed countries are mostly from India, Pakistan and the middle East - those people are a experts in circumventing any country's immigration policies. The have strong community ties unlike Africans. So once a country closes its borders, they will simply switch to another. Doesn't matter if it's Europe or America - they will get there. They have strong networks.

US on one side. Canada is the next most attractive English speaking country to immigrants after UK. So they take cues from what UK is doing.

Please, stop displaying ignorance here. The UK's immigration policies is older than Nigeria itself. You entered UK yesterday and you think their immigration policies is driven by Trump. Lol. You are funny. Immigration has been a major issue in the UK since when Tony Blair was prime minister. As at 2010, the UK placed a cap on non-Eu immigration. Was Donald Trump president in 2010? Go read the several agreements that the UK has signed with and other countries (like Belgium) on immigration matters. When did you enter the UK that makes you feel the UK immigration policies is influenced by Trump building border walls few years ago?

You said UK doesn't have land borders. The UK has a land border with the republic of Ireland.

You said immigrants from Indians, Pakistanis, swarm to another western country with one western country closes its borders. Lol. You are not serious. The UK is not even a top destination for these guys. Go to the US and Canada, that is where you will see those guys. Like Nigerians, Indians and Pakistanis, and other nationalities see the UK as the Initial stepping stone to leave their countries. Most will later move to the US and Canada. I know the number of people that have left the UK to Canada. I do not know of anyone that has left Canada to the UK. Saying Canada is the most attractive English speaking countries to immigrants after the UK is laughable. The UK is not even in the top 3. It's US, Canada and Australia. The good thing about UK is that it is easy and cheaper to enter than the US and Canada. Most Nigerians who go to the UK is because their jakpa plans to US or Canada didn't work out. Las las, many of them still leave the UK to come to Canada. Lol. There is nothing about UK immigration policies that Canada will be copying them. Every Tom, dick and Harry can enter the UK. But for Canada, you have to be worth it to enter. The process is stricter and more expensive.

You said UK's immigration restrictions is to make people pay more, not to prevent them from coming. Lol. That's not true. The restrictions are to dissuade people from coming. Only really desperate people wanting to jakpa go the UK now sha. If you are legit, have your money, US, Canada and Australia are better to jakpa to than UK.

If you have the time, read about the history of UK immigration control.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_UK_immigration_control