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Ruke1991:
Those deeper life leaders problem cannot be solved by this teaching. It's somehow a mixture of hatred, unforgiveness, jealously and protectionism that makes them discipline, frustrate, blackmail and chase away their young ones who practice speaking in tongues, who are gifted in the prophetic or are are aggressively involved in leading others to engage in prayer. Those deeper life pastors have what bible calls cloak of maliciousness. What does it mean?

They envy you but will not acknowledge it is envy. They are secretly afraid that if you set up a church, they could lose followers. But they never try to understand your mission first.

Rather they look at legalistic rules within the church. They look at the church traditions to find what they can use to punish you and kill you. The best weapon is so called disciplinary actions. You could be suspended for up to one or two years in a row and while you are under suspension rumours about you being occultic, rebellious will be going round. The in their simplistic and sanctimonious ways will start avoiding you for fear of the high handedness of their pastor not descending on them.

Deeperlife today is almost like a cult with fearful followers of high handed pastors who are not obedient to scriptures despite that they preach it. Those pastors are more about maintaining their control over the people than anything else. Or else, how do you explain their actions? Where in every location of deeper life, those who speak in tongues while leading prayer during holy ghost impartation services are considered occultic or rebels and have to serve disciplinary actions. Deeperlife is like that everywhere but the more religious try to deny the coercion and erroneous application of disciplinary action in settling personal scores by deeper life leaders. Pastor Kumuyi, you have tried. But at this stage nothing you can do to change those pastors, not even your teachings except you discipline them anyhow the way they discipline people. That's the language they understand

Story for the gullibles!

The main reason these guys set up churches is for the purpose of enriching themselves and their immediate families.

Only those in the Bible served God genuinely. .

Kobojunkie:
. The Deeper Life's problem was created by Kumuyi himself, who, for the longest, used many of these backhanded approaches to kick out those who did not adhere to his ideas and rules from the very beginning.

2. Disciplinary actions? You are indeed right that this organization is nothing but a cult. You indicating that others be punished for not following the news ideas of this man, after many decades of his rejecting those same methods, is all the more reason why anyone watching needs to see it for the cult it truly is.

You are very correct on the first point but calling deeper life a cult is a no no and no
.Daddy kumuyi needs to first apologise then point out where he made mistakes and do a thorough teaching according to scripture s with the help of the holy spirit on areas he want to make amends. I ed an incidence when i was in primary school.A pastors (Daddy praise)son was planning a wedding outside deeper life and guess what the pastor was told not to attend the wedding.The pastor refused and attended his son's wedding.He was suspended when he came back.Jesus did not preach denomination.He need to first apologise. For some man made rules that he imposed or taught his people.
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But i respect deeper on so many areas.The
Materialism that has consumed the church has no place in deeper life.if they have a project.they will gradually contribute according to their pocket unlike my own church(rccg) where one of our pastors went as far as asking us to help them borrow money money to complete a new project immediately after a big project.
No church on earth is perfect.we are all working toward perfection and God is coming for a perfect church hence individual judgement.
Any church you are going to sieve whatever you are taught in line with God's word and help of the holy spirit and you are good to go

Nlandmodesfku:
A core JW friend can't even attend your wedding. He'd be punished for it.. it's a cult

That's a lie it's only the wedding of an apostate that we can't attend.

KnowledgePower7:
I thank God i almost slapped my mother and pushed her away because of her religious STUPIDITY

It baffles me how people blindly follow man-made doctrines like a cult and call it Christianity..

My younger sis was having rigos fever.
This woman placed Chosen vest on her instead of rushing her to hospital.
I arrived home and was shocked to see my sis shaking with Chosen vest placed on her.
I yelled at mumsi for not rushing her to hospital
She said she was waiting for pastor to come and pray for her.

Omo i grab my sister and booked keke. My mum tried to talk me out of it and i almost slapped her.

The way Religion make women lose their senses is incredible.
If i didnt visit home that day God forbid my young sis woukd have died.

I don give her serious warning not to carry her mumu church brain and kill her child...

I love my mother,
But i will not sit and watch her destroy our family because of one pastor.

I ed this story of yours from back maybe 2 years ago. I hope she isn't very religious like before.

KnowledgePower7:
I thank God i almost slapped my mother and pushed her away because of her religious STUPIDITY

It baffles me how people blindly follow man-made doctrines like a cult and call it Christianity..

My younger sis was having rigos fever.
This woman placed Chosen vest on her instead of rushing her to hospital.
I arrived home and was shocked to see my sis shaking with Chosen vest placed on her.
I yelled at mumsi for not rushing her to hospital
She said she was waiting for pastor to come and pray for her.

Omo i grab my sister and booked keke. My mum tried to talk me out of it and i almost slapped her.

The way Religion make women lose their senses is incredible.
If i didnt visit home that day God forbid my young sis woukd have died.

I don give her serious warning not to carry her mumu church brain and kill her child...

I love my mother,
But i will not sit and watch her destroy our family because of one pastor.

it is very difficult to get people who are under control/manipulation/brainwashing or hypnotized by a cult leader out of it because of some element of fear. There are have been cases were cult commit suicide or do terrible things because it was ordered by their cult leader for the so called greater good . they are often in a state were they cannot rationally understand their own actions. Geting people out of it requires very serious psychology treatment from specialized psychologist that deal with cult which is probably not available or limited.

Karlman:
The challenge is that Deeper Life, good as it is, either embraces the new world reality by relaxing some unnecessary rules. Or it will end as a church only for the elderly and subsequently dies and be forgotten by generations to come.

This is what the GO is seeing and wants to avoid but his pastors ain't seeing it yet. And he must make them see it before he leaves so his labour will live forever.

But he started it.
How can television be sin?
Growing up in deeper life was hard and my parent were deeper than deeper life.

Chai ya diba..

teeteepeejay:
Christians hatee Christians. If Muslims do not exist, they all be tearing each other apart. Buh huh there is an enemy that keeps them unites at least

And vice versa

Arostar2023:
I agree we with you. Only that Deeper Life is better...I have relatives that are JW .

Kumuyi was once a JW member that's why most of his moves resembles that of JWs, if anyone knows his old magazines in the 80s/90s you will notice that all the artistic impressions were taken from JW magazines but photocopy type. So Kumuyi tried to hide his JW orientation but it wasn't easy today he's now trying to change everything because he discovered that with all his brain people like Adeboye, Oyedepo and Olukoya are making money and followers more than him.

SeriouslySense:
He almost slapped his mother. , that is quite extreme. What do i know.

I can never do that to my parents, even if they are wrong, i will treat them in gentleness and maybe try to explain, and if they dont get it, just help the sister to the Hospital.

Moral Police, he nearly but didn't. Don't be too overzealous about other people matter.
While the Mom is older , actions were clearly wrong.

But I've learnt no to jump into conclusion when I don't have all or most of the facts, for instance how did she became so fanatic? Maybe the church offered her hope when she has lost hope .or maybe she found her purpose in life at the church
Or maybe she was just simply misled by the doctrines of the church.

Whatever it is, her son acted right IMO

Kobojunkie:
. The Deeper Life's problem was created by Kumuyi himself, who, for the longest, used many of these backhanded approaches to kick out those who did not adhere to his ideas and rules from the very beginning.

2. Disciplinary actions? You are indeed right that this organization is nothing but a cult. You indicating that others be punished for not following the news ideas of this man, after many decades of his rejecting those same methods, is all the more reason why anyone watching needs to see it for the cult it truly is.

Dogalmighty17:
I when Deeper life dedicated their new HQ in Gbagada. The sound engineer they brought was a Nigerian-American. Lady had zero f-cks to give. She left her hair open with her long attachments and wore tros. I was surprised to be honest.

A number of these churches will be in crises in the near future. With aging GO's, nebulous plans of succession and declining populations, it will be hard to see them maintain the many branches they have around.

Infact you have said the truth and nothing but the truth. Kudos!

mekleelex200:
When we tell them all this fanatism is human imagination. God don't give a sh*t about what you believe as far as you are doing the right thing and contribute positive energy to the universe to make it better.

God does not have religion, if he has any it means he is cheating his creations. Human created religion for mind control and psychological policing. Be it African Traditional Religion, Hinduism, Budaism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc. Just seek for spirituality and knowledge you will understand this life is cool.

This is it, find your path
There's everything to learn from any religion and with our God given sense we know the difference between right and wrong always.

Church is not the way to God, our hearts are works are

MaxInDHouse:

Kumuyi was once a JW member that's why most of his moves resembles that of JWs, if anyone knows his old magazines in the 80s/90s you will notice that all the artistic impressions were taken from JW magazines but photocopy type. So Kumuyi tried to hide his JW orientation but it wasn't easy today he's now trying to change everything because he discovered that with all his brain people like Adeboye, Oyedepo and Olukoya are making money and followers more than him.

Kumuyi was never a JW member, but has his root from the Apostolic Faith Church. So stop pushing a wrong narrative. Kumuyi's Church doctrines never copy that of JW's own. The only similarity is that of not celebrating Christmas, which some churches also do, including MFM. Will you now say that Pastor Olukoya was also a JW member?

If i were to ia Christian, I'll gadly opted for Jehovah's witness. I love their cslmness and serenity, and if course, their teachings

MaxInDHouse:

Jehovah's Witnesses totally differs from Deeperlife o!

dequir:

Kumuyi was never a JW member, but has his root from the Apostolic Faith Church. So stop pushing a wrong narrative. Kumuyi's Church doctrines never copy that of JW's own. The only similarity is that of not celebrating Christmas, which some churches also do, including MFM. Will you now say that Pastor Olukoya was also a JW member?

Guy don't argue what you have no idea about i'm telling you what happened the man hid this from everyone.
Do you know that it was from the JW magazine Kumuyi got the idea about the dangers of watching TV?

mekleelex200:
When we tell them all this fanatism is human imagination. God don't give a sh*t about what you believe as far as you are doing the right thing and contribute positive energy to the universe to make it better.

God does not have religion, if he has any it means he is cheating his creations. Human created religion for mind control and psychological policing. Be it African Traditional Religion, Hinduism, Budaism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc. Just seek for spirituality and knowledge you will understand this life is cool.

God bless you for this bro. The way these Christians and Muslims carry religion for head is too much

Like if you not part of them or doing something, na hellfire straight. This is a strong, subtle mind control i tell you

shiffynaani:

If i were to ia Christian, I'll gadly opted for Jehovah's witness. I love their cslmness and serenity, and if course, their teachings

That's something really difficult because Jesus said his real disciples will be hated globally by overzealous religionists whose faith is based on dogmas! Matthew 10:22
The irony of the matter is that claiming i love Jesus differ from sticking to what Jesus taught {Matthew 15:8-9} so while most religionists are just shouting "Jesus is Lord" JWs stick to what Jesus taught strictly hence most people labeled them a CULT just as Jesus foretold! Matthew 10:24-25

KnowledgePower7:
I thank God i almost slapped my mother and pushed her away because of her religious STUPIDITY

It baffles me how people blindly follow man-made doctrines like a cult and call it Christianity..

My younger sis was having rigos fever.
This woman placed Chosen vest on her instead of rushing her to hospital.
I arrived home and was shocked to see my sis shaking with Chosen vest placed on her.
I yelled at mumsi for not rushing her to hospital
She said she was waiting for pastor to come and pray for her.

Omo i grab my sister and booked keke. My mum tried to talk me out of it and i almost slapped her.

The way Religion make women lose their senses is incredible.
If i didnt visit home that day God forbid my young sis woukd have died.

I don give her serious warning not to carry her mumu church brain and kill her child...

I love my mother,
But i will not sit and watch her destroy our family because of one pastor.

WOW you almost slapped your mum and you typed that and people liked your post. No wonder crase people full Nairaland. You almost slapped your mum and you get mouth talk that word.
You are very dumb and you don't know anything about Christianity. Your mum was expressing her faith and if you have knowledge of scripture you will correct her in respect not with disrespect. Even now you disrespected her with this nonsense.
Some of you don't read your Bible so you come here and talk nonsense. They are people who even died in faith as quoted in Hebrews 11. So next time tell her to take the child to the hospital as she express her faith and grows her faith in God.

ogascomax:

WOW you almost slapped your mum and you typed that and people liked your post.

He said "almost" meaning he was mad at the woman's action it's simple nah!

Ndidi2:
But he started it.
How can television be sin?
Growing up in deeper life was hard and my parent were deeper than deeper life.

Chai ya diba..

Of course you're right. But just as he has seen where it is now headed, he must it it to his pastors that there is no longer a road in that direction. He must make them see it themselves that it might have worked then when he started but now there is a new world which they all must embrace by relaxing those archaic rules or the church might be swept away by future.

SeriouslySense:
He almost slapped his mother. , that is quite extreme. What do i know.

I can never do that to my parents, even if they are wrong, i will treat them in gentleness and maybe try to explain, and if they dont get it, just help the sister to the Hospital.

But now he thinks he is wiser, smarter and better. But he is worst. If you can make attempt on your mother this guy will be beating is girlfriend or wife. He go beat them.
Bible says honour your parents and there is no condition in honouring them. Good or bad, honour them.

I have personal hatred for Religion and it's numerous doctrines that seem to put people in bondage.

I will forever be grateful to Jesus Christ for coming to me himself and bringing me unto his arms and teaching me his ways without religiousity.

Religion is a disaster.

It's only a matter of time, Religion would be destroyed in favour of true spirituality.

Nlandmodesfku:
They operate like a cult, they and the Jehovah's witnesses.

Not only them o

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teeteepeejay:
Christians hatee Christians. If Muslims do not exist, they all be tearing each other apart. Buh huh there is an enemy that keeps them unites at least

Do christians actually hates each other?
Pointing out mistakes can be out of love also.in Galatians 2 vs 11 to 14.Paul pointed out hypocrisy of Peter about the Gentiles
Bible said we are surrounded by cloud of witnesses a and since cannot correct our pastors the social media has become a witness and a tool for correction.
Daddy Adeboye has corrected some of his notion about tithe,pastor Paul Eneche has equally apologise to the lady he embarrassed during testimony and now Daddy kumuyi is on his own journey to correct his mistake.

So my brother.we can't be like the other religion.To attain perfection we need to tell yourself the truth.we don't hate ourself

PovertySlayer:
Kumuyi go explain tire. All of a sudden, you want to change the doctrine. I believe his pastors are right to protest because any change would mean he has been lying to them all along.

very funny.

But it's not like he was lying to them. He's just seeing the light in a higher dimension now

achorladey:



It has to create the rules to protect the man made establishment or organization. He go collapse if rules no dey

It's everywhere.
That's why Nigeria has constitution

Sirianese:


It's all about power

Pentecostalism is used by the 'pastorpreneurs' to foster personality cults which enable them to extract financial, psychic and sexual resources from their captives

What about catholicism and other denominations?

Anonimoux:
It's only a matter of time, Religion would be destroyed in favour of true spirituality.

Yes the Bible foretells a time when false religions will be wiped out completely!

KnowledgePower7:
I thank God i almost slapped my mother and pushed her away because of her religious STUPIDITY

It baffles me how people blindly follow man-made doctrines like a cult and call it Christianity..

My younger sis was having rigos fever.
This woman placed Chosen vest on her instead of rushing her to hospital.
I arrived home and was shocked to see my sis shaking with Chosen vest placed on her.
I yelled at mumsi for not rushing her to hospital
She said she was waiting for pastor to come and pray for her.

Omo i grab my sister and booked keke. My mum tried to talk me out of it and i almost slapped her.

The way Religion make women lose their senses is incredible.
If i didnt visit home that day God forbid my young sis woukd have died.

I don give her serious warning not to carry her mumu church brain and kill her child...

I love my mother,
But i will not sit and watch her destroy our family because of one pastor.

You get luck say pastor never land by that time... They for tag you cultists or devil incarnate and tell your mum to bring you for deliverance or avoid you completely.

Before 2030, some churches will be burnt down. Scam format always has expiry date

honeyB2018:



Where did it start from,if not the head.
Those heading the ministry, should look inward for a change.

Those following them should also learn to follow through!