NewStats: 3,264,986 , 8,185,274 topics. Date: Friday, 13 June 2025 at 04:31 AM 3s3h1k

Abuloma80:
Interesting! But what about faith and destiny? To live long or otherwise a religion says and believes one is given certain time to live, which cannot be altered even by second. I believe there are many with that faith in this Platform.

Not sure if you think you are making sense. Places where people live longest are Japan Korea and Hong Kong They do not subscribe to that crap. They watch their , diets and exercise regularly.

Generally faith has nothing to do with it

We are living longer ALL OVER THE WORLD today than our ancestors did 400 years ago because of immunization, better nutrition and other technological advances even though Much of Africa still lags behind

Even in Nigeria poor people do not live long generally. They do not have clean water, good food and basic health care

Clean water and sanitation is key. Managing conditions like diabetes, and high blood pressure make a difference and that is why people in richer countries live longer

Kaypols:
No wonder I hardly see tall old woman or man

Depends on the country . If you go to the Netherlands you will and they live longer than many countries

The Yoruba primordial story is the MYTH that the whole of humanity came from Ile-Ife and that that is where life started just like some others believe there was a Garden of Eden


That is the place of Ile-Ife in Yoruba Mythology

It is nothing more than a metaphysical and mythical statement

Llight101:
It's a wonderful testimony, to God be the glory

Why did God allow the crash to happen?

To God be what glory?

If you have nothing sensible to say be quiet

So.///////////////////////// The Goalkeeper knows exactly where the striker is going kick the ball when he takes the penalty

All he has to do is dive and catch the ball ....................


very easy

Peter Obi is a ......................

Ibo people are................

The Myth of Yar'adua

What did Yar'adua achieve for Nigeria?
Was it not the same nepotism? The same Fulani based government

What 2 things can we point to ?

Is it the rigged election that brought him to power, the shameful removal of Nuhu Ribadu, the lies about his health?


There is nothing to write home about apart from the pity people feel that he died

He did not leave any king of legacy

If you say he died quickly fine . Let us say nothing . Let us say he did not have time but there is no way anyone can say he did anything to improve the lives of Nigerians

globemoney:

and you believe the criminal obi that claimed to leave 75 billion abi 48 billion? Receive sense

Nope

Don't believ e him

The next governor of Lagos State

A E D P D E D S U

Atiku has done worse to kill PDP

She is seriously overweight she should make that a priority so that her health improves and she lives long to enjoy these blessings

The main issue is arrogance from Atiku and cowardice from Obi

What Nigeria needs to see in 2027 is a direct head to contest between Tinubu and Obi so that we can know who is who but Obi is too much of a coward to denounce any coalition and come out to run with full confidence

I laugh in coalition language

Obi was unconvincing

But TInubu too is not capable of Media debate and has pointedly avoided these

It is a shameful indictment of the quality of our politics

What is an example of Global standard?

How many people were stabbed or killed?

We do not have to copy anyone but there is no perfect standard

Anyone who has been to carnivals has heard of stabbings , stampedes, killings and so on ALL AROUND THE WORLD

As long as humans are involved there will be problems

Can we do better? Always but that must not entail copying anyone

definitions matter you cannot group all human beings into TWO CATEGORIES short and Tall without a definition

Where does shortness end and tallness start

Menclothing1:


Same law apply to E money Iyabo ojo and other and for the record even this boy is under age for court trial

Is there a point you are trying to make ?

Berankis:

I wonder why they didn't allow the same 'public apology' for Bobriski, T-dollar, the other young man and others that were jailed for the same offense.
We will all (the masses) continue to suffer in this country if we continue to indulge this selective justice system and perpetual victimisation of the poor.

The truth is this very simple

Many of us have no problem with abuse of power ,our only problem is we are not the ones abusing the power

Most Nigerians are tyrants at heart and would have no problem locking a person in prison for years for disrespecting them if they had the power

The reason is simple

Many Nigerian men are raised by their mothers , even when their parents are married they may not see their fathers for up to 5 hours a week . The outcome is men that reason as if they were raised by single mothers, very illogical and very emotional

WorldRichest:
The journalist is mentally unstable, the Okoya’s have resolved their issue with EFCC since and even did a public apology just as some others like Iyabo Ojo and Obi Cubana did

Mentally unstable? Not sure what you mean maybe you need to look in the mirror?

What has public apology got to do with an alleged crime>

Apology to whom?

The law recognizes guilty or not guilty AFTER he must have been charged to court


What do you mean by resolved their issue


You talk like a slave




The point being made is that we live in a country where the law does not apply to you if you are rich and connected



We do not need a law that criminalizes money spraying and if we must have one let it apply to everyone

Which story in the bible is about any black man in West Africa?

How e take concern us?

Konquest:

Your is in order because it's ALWAYS important to ask questions and then we can get rock solid illuminations on areas where blindspots exist in our body of knowledge. I gave some advanced book references in the body of my post that you quoted which you can easily read up.

I don't make assumptions because since 1981, I have collected a vast body of historical knowledge and books on world history and Nigerian history in my personal archives. More on that later.

My brief reference to Portuguese being a sort of pidgin Latin came from a series of BBC Documentary Reports I listened to back in the late 1990s that dealt with the history of the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal). Portuguese is a pidginized offshoot of Spanish as spoken by certain folks in the lower class and we know that Spanish has its roots in Latin or the "Romance languages" like you indicated in your post [with several Arabic-derived words in Spanish] due to the invasion and colonization of Spain for over 700 years by the Muslim Moorish invaders (the Muslim Berbers and Arab elements from North Africa) who were FINALLY expelled militarily from Spain (Al-Andulus) in 1492!


I have a vast body of archival materials in my personal home libraries that I have gathered right from the early 1980s (1981 to be precise) so you are NOT having a convo with a youngster here who is making wild assumptions BUT a well-traveled and well-read man. I have read the advanced books and historical works on advanced Yoruba history and archaeology from Nigeria's former Ambassador to and historian, Professor Jide Osuntokun, the respected historian Prof Banji Akintoye, and many more scholars which shed more light on the pre-Oduduwa dynasty history and the past ancestors of modern Yorubas before Oduduwa was even born or even arrived in Ufe (Ife) from his original Yoruba home in the hilly Oke Ora (Oke means hill and Ora is the name of a Yoruba deity) just 8 miles away from Ife and he met older communities and people there. There were already autochthonous communities (Yoruba ancestors) existing in Ife, Ekiti, Ondo axis long before Oduduwa was even born according to the former Nigerian Ambassador to , Emeritus Professor Akinjide Osuntokun and others in their advanced works. So, Oduduwa simply represents the rise of a new dynasty (3rd Dynasty) in Ufe (Ile Ife) and NOT that all Yoruba folks descended from him.


This is NOT an assumption. Yorubas and the people today collectively known as Ibos were NOT directly from one source in the Niger-Congo classification as alleged by earlier writers, and the late Attah of Igala, Michael Ameh Oboni clearly stated in the 2017 interview that the Igalas came into existence as a result of the fusion of a migrant group of people from Wukari with a significant number of Yorubas and Edos they met around the river Niger confluence and Idah axis. Igala language like I stated is up to 65% mutually intelligible with Yoruba. Even the folks called Ibos (Igbos) today are NOT of the same ancestry and are not of direct ancestral links with Yorubas within the last 1000 years. I have seen posts by folks from the Owerri or Southern part of the South East of Nigeria say this online (YouTube and NL) and even criticize the "Afa" as known in the Anambra area and instead regard "Odinani" as the real Ibo religion. What largely makes a person an Ibo is NOT about ancestry but about shared cultures.
That's the way they classify themselves based off of shared culture. The term Ibo evolved ONLY less than 150 years ago as a result of British Colonial influence and NOT that these fragmented subgroups such as the Ngwa, Owerre, Awka, Mbaise, Nsukka, etc, called themselves Ibo. The name Ibo (Igbo) was ORIGINALLY used back in time by the more advanced ethnic neighbors of these subtribes in the Ibo interior as a "derogatory" or "condescending" name because the people of the Ibo interior of the East of the river Niger were seen as primitive, engaged in cannibalism and were used as source of slaves sold to Aboh [by the Igalas who called these slaves "Onigbo" and elsewhere]. The Igalas contemptuously refered to the primitive tribes in the Ibo interior as "Onigbo, the Benin-Edos referred to them as "Igbon," the Asabas on the West of river Niger referred to them condescendingly as "Onye Ibo" all because the people were seen as bush dwellers who engaged in cannibalism and were used for slave labor. Period.

I don't know book

I understand but where is he going to find that woman that does not lie?

Konquest:

@aribisala0

Impressive takes.

I like the FACT that you emphasized on the relationship between Portuguese and Spanish on one hand and the presence of LOAN WORDS from Yoruba language in central Ibo language. Portuguese itself evolved as a sort of pidgin latin as well.

We MUST NOT forget that historically, Igala language is classified as a Yoruboid language just like Itsekiris (who are ORIGINALLY made up directly of a central core of people from Yorubaland from Ijebu, Ife, and Ilaje). Ureju was founded by Ife migrants. Ode Itsekiri, Ogidigen, Omadino, etc, are Itsekiri communities originally founded by Ijebu people from over 700 years ago before Prince Ginuwa came from Benin with 70 of his lieutenants in the year 1480. The oil and gas-rich Ugborodo (formerly called Escravos was founded over 500 years by migrants from Ugbo in Ondo State, etc).

With reference to the Igalas, the Igalas are indigenous to Kogi State, Northern Enugu, Anambra, Delta North, etc, and in 2017, the late Attah of Igala emphasized in that Punch interview which is still online that Igala evolved from a fusion of migrants from Wukari now in Taraba who fused with a significant number of Yorubas and Edos they met around Idah. It's NOT surprising that Yoruba and Igala languages are mutually intelligible up to 65% with a lot of PURE Yoruba words of up to 65% found in Igala language with some having the same spelling while others have slight spelling alterations. The remaining words and vocabularies in Igala are from largely from Idoma language.

So, the few Yoruba words you see in Ibo (Igbo) are actually borrowed or LOAN WORDS directly from Yoruba and ALSO via Igalas since Igala folks are indigenous to Anambra State.

Egungun in Yoruba is spelled "Egwugwu" by Igalas in Igala-associated communities based off of dialectic pronounciations, Omi is Omi in Igala, Ogede in Yoruba is Ogede in Igala, Osu is Ochu in Igala meaning month, Ifa is Ifa in Igala, Akuko is Akuko in Ogun in Yoruba is Ogwu in Igala meaning medicine. These PURE Yoruba words in Igala ALSO CLEARLY leaked into central Ibo via the Anambra axis. The Igalas are well known to have been the one that introduced the red chieftaincy cap into the Nsukka area within the last 500 years. The red chieftaincy cap is NOT an indigenous Ibo cap but a Middle Belt cap worn by Yorubas, Igalas, Ebiras, Jukuns, etc, of the Middle Belt of Nigeria. An American who lecturered at University of Nigeria, Nsukka from the 1960s right to the 1970s ALSO CLEARLY stated in his book "The Ibo-Igala Land Border" that Yoruba and Igala hunters hunted in the Nsukka area together over 300 years ago which emphasizes the ancestral relationship or bloodlines between the Yorubas and Igalas through the common modern Kogi State land bridge with modern Anambra and Northern Enugu. Even the FULL name of the Igala cultural capital, Idah, which is "ONA IMUDA" [meaning the ROAD is blocked], emphasizing the blockage by the river Niger of the road/path/route taken by the early founders or migrants into modern Idah) has noticeable Yoruba words in it with ONA or road being very noticeable. "IDAH" is the shortened form of the full name "ONA IMUDA."

The Igala-associated communities who we know are Yoruboid in language are a major source of some of those few PURE Yoruba words found in Ibo language aside from those DIRECTLY borrowed from Yoruba language such as Egunsi (Egusi), Akara, Moyin-Moyin (The ORIGINAL Yoruba spelling is "Moyin-Moyin" BUT some contract it to "Moin-Moin" without letter Y) Agidi, Elubo, Agbada, Iba (fever), Okuta, Ewure are CLEARLY pure Yoruba words loaned into Ibo language as CLEARLY documented in the Longman Ibo-English Dictionary co-written decades back by an Ibo academic and linguist.

I have a screenshot of the Egusi entry in the Ibo-English Dictionary where it was CLEARLY indicated that the Ibo spelling Egwusi is a borrowed OR LOAN WORD from the "Yor" (YORUBA) and will attach it right BELOW. Parts of Ibo call Egunsi (Egusi) Elili.

NO doubt the indigenous Igala presence in the Igala-associated communities of modern Anambra (via Eri the son of Achado and his descendants), Northern Enugu, Delta North, etc, are CLEARLY partly responsible for the inflow of these Yoruba words into Ibo lexicon and we MUSTN'T forget that the great linguist and Anglican clergyman Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther wrote the FIRST EVER book in Ibo language entitled: "ISUAMA IBO - A Primer" in the 1850s while in Onitsha based off of his earlier works in creating the Yoruba language alphabet, Yoruba-English Dictionary and other Yoruba books as of 1843. Ajayi Crowther ALSO wrote a FIRST EVER book in the Igala language and Nupe language as well being a linguist.

Thanks for your quote

You are making a lot of assertions that are assumptions
Eg that Portuguese evolved as a sort of pidgin of Latin. That is unknowable

That there was a flow of words from Yoruba to Igbo. There are too many assumption

The greatest intellectual trait is the ability to separate beliefs from reality

Many of your assumptions about loan words require a lot more expertise than you have or at least are claiming to have

Linguistics does not operate at the superficial level

It is possible that there was One Language A Parent from which Igbo and Yoruba evolved thousands of years ago rather than that one borrowed from the other . Even if there was borrowing who borrowed and how can we know?
. Both are possible but it is important to be humble enough to acknowledge the limits of what one knows or does not know and not to fill in gaps with strong Assertions about things one cannot possibly know

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Atiku should just retire!

It’s not yet 2027 and all odds against him.

Atiku and Peter should unite and start a fish farm that will employ thousands, instead is wasting funds on lost course.

Tilapia Catfish or Sardine?

DeepSight:


Well, in a particular session with the same Lere Olayinka, Dr. Abati had pointed out that at the Guardian, they had people of different disciplines for different sections. He thus argued that Journalism is multi disciplinary and that stands to reason.

I don't think you will find a single definition of "journalist" anywhere which states that the journalist is a person who has done a course in that regard.

This is different with certain callings. One cannot be called a lawyer without being called to the bar or a doctor without going through medical school.

This is disingenuous
I watched it Abati actually agreed on the need for professional affiliation with the NUJ

Again you display a tendency to confirmation bias i.e. tto only hear what you want to hear based on your beliefs

Go and watch it again

The minimum is to complete a diploma which is some months to a year

Abati never said everyone working for Guardian WAS A JOURNALIST

All kinds of people can write articles for Newspapers especiall technical e.g Health, Law Property etc They are WRITERS not Journalists or let us say NOT PROFESSIONAL journalists if they are not s of a professional body

You can be called a doctor or lawyer without doing those things it depends on the country and that is why bodies like the NUJ are more asertive as is their right

DeepSight:


journalist
noun

a person who writes news stories or articles for a newspaper or magazine or broadcasts them on radio or television:

a freelance political journalist

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/journalist

You need to distinguish between an amateur and a professional go and check that same source for engineer

In Nigeria we have the NUJ

In America

several professional organizations for journalists exist in the United States, including the Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ), the American Society of Journalists and Authors (ASJA), and the National Press Club etc


So that dictionary definition does not work at professional level

The fact that you are on TV does not make you a journalist

DeepSight:


If you haven't noticed, I am not addressing you rudely. You can return the favour.

I have not addressed you rudely
I asked where the NONSENSE you have said is coming from

If you feel that is about you I have no apology. Frankly it is NONSENSE

You might want to open a dictionary to check the meaning of the word

I honestly don't think you have ever done that so you might learn something

You obviously are one of those individuals that are high on opinion and low on knowledge

DeepSight:


I didn't make any such pronouncement. I only gave you a list of recognised world class journalists who didn't study any such thing. You can make of it what you will.

Who said they are journalists? What is the definition of journalist?

DeepSight:


No that would be the job of a simple News Caster.

This is just opinion

what is all this nonsense based on? Where do you get it from?

clearly you believe it but that does not make it true