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This will depend on what part of London you are based. I have an instructor in South London.

oluwaleokey:
Please who can recommend a good driving instructor in London preferably. For someone who has never driven before
1st time driver,
ed theory test...intend to start practical driving lessons ASAP

Help 🙏 🙏 🙏

Lexusgs430:
Una don hear the latest torry wey dey town.............😂😁

Two Nigerian women arrested for sitting life in the uk test, for other women..... Immigration burst don happen..... 😁😎

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdUBNbgH/

So all those who used their services will be receiving a call from HO

Lexusgs430:
Una don hear the latest torry wey dey town.............😂😁

Two Nigerian women arrested for sitting life in the uk test, for other women..... Immigration burst don happen..... 😁😎

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdUBNbgH/

😂 Aunty kemi go increase ilr qualification to 20yrs now

Goodenoch:


😄

The whole discussion has been hilarious.

Everyone in the world knows that no one calls farm workers expatriates despite the technical meaning of the word, and everyone knows precisely why, but let those deceiving no one but themselves continue - It's fun to watch.

I'm yet to see any definition of expat that isnt synonymous to migrant. The only difference is that migrants from western nations prefer to call themselves expats.

One needs to understand Z to engage. Now she's waxing lyrical about why I am particular about the definition. Trying to drag things off tangent just because I asked her one simple question.

Goke7:


you're becoming accustomed to vawulence, let peace reign bruv before we go spend 20 years collect ILR

Hehehe... if only she could

A few posts ago, I asked if she'd be in of our carers (and dependent family) getting their ILR and becoming citizens in 5 + 1 yrs. That was unsurprisingly sidestepped.

justwise:


So all those who used their services will be receiving a call from HO

They are all panicking now...... 😁😂

Zahra29:


You and your (not so merry) band of ers are so desperate to paint me as some type of arch-villian. Sorry to keep disappointing you.

Hehe.. Zahra.

You have always been warmly welcomed in our midst (apart from when there were riots for obviour reasons)

All said, I have always wondered about your story - I know you are of West Indian/Carribean heritage. Unlike some Reform , I wouldn't ask where you are 'originally' from. How did you/family come about a British port. Were you an anchor baby or were your parents/progenitors part of the Windrush arrivals?

Lexusgs430:
Una don hear the latest torry wey dey town.............😂😁

Two Nigerian women arrested for sitting life in the uk test, for other women..... Immigration burst don happen..... 😁😎

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdUBNbgH/

Hmm.. how was this even possible? Isn't there a fingerprint authentication method?

When I took the test, I kept wondering what the whole security and checks were for.

jedisco:


Hehehe... if only she could

A few posts ago, I asked if she'd be in of our carers (and dependent family) getting their ILR and becoming citizens in 5 + 1 yrs. That was unsurprisingly sidestepped.

Lol coming from the original sidestepper who never answers questions I put to him even when I've answered several of your questions, no matter how silly or ill intentioned.

You were asked a few posts back if you regarded yourself as an expatriate or an immigrant seeing as you are so ionate about the classification, particularly as it relates to farm workers. Crickets from you.....hilarious. In fairness, you might be confused and in need of help.

If only you could put your prevarication to good use and consider becoming a politician. It's apparently very easy to do - if Kemi can manage it, so can you.

jedisco:


Hehe.. Zahra.

You have always been warmly welcomed in our midst (apart from when there were riots for obviour reasons)

All said, I have always wondered about your story - I know you are of West Indian/Carribean heritage. Unlike some Reform , I wouldn't ask where you are 'originally' from. How did you/family come about a British port. Were you an anchor baby or were your parents/progenitors part of the Windrush arrivals?

Jedi, Jedi...

Respectfully, I don't need or care for a welcome from you or your band of ers 🙂

Thankfully I enjoy the ability of independent, critical thought and I continue to enjoy engagements with the reasonable folk here, who are mature enough to agree or disagree civilly and without finding offence where there is none.

To the bolded, you should keep wondering. I am no longer inclined to answer your ill-intended questions, especially as you routinely side step questions asked of you.

I'm all of the following: anchor baby, Windrush descendant, expatriate farm worker, international student, Nigerian immigrant, Yardie...
- pick whichever you fancy.

Lexusgs430:
Una don hear the latest torry wey dey town.............😂😁

Two Nigerian women arrested for sitting life in the uk test, for other women..... Immigration burst don happen..... 😁😎

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdUBNbgH/

Lol the torry has gone viral, sky news, everywhere.

The report also said that they found a woman hiding under the bed who was arrested for illegal entry to the UK.

They seized lots of designer goods as well
So silly paying all that money and committing immigration fraud instead of just doing a bit of studying to a simple test - and one that you can retake as many times as needed.

Zahra29:


Then when the system becomes stricter and they start profiling black folk, people will cry racism.

But it would, in fact, be racism to profile black folk on the basis of the actions of this person and however many clients she had.

I had never heard about anyone impersonating people in that exam. I didn’t know it was possible or that it would even be something anyone would consider for the same reasons you stated. Nothing I’ve seen indicates that it’s widespread or common or even beyond this person.

Therefore, it would be the very definition of racism to profile people based on it. You should reflect on why you can’t see that and instead are saying people who call it racism would be “crying racism”

It is well documented that very many british people have been going around the world for sex tourism (including preying on children), but I’m sure you wouldn’t say that a British person who says they ought not to be profiled based on that, is “crying racism”.

Whether intended or not, this behavior of ascribing responsibility for the bad behaviors of individuals to a collective group and using it to justify abuses is the very essence of racism, and it’s the same thing you have always done. There’s a clear line from this sort of thinking to the legitimization of the attacks on non-white people during the riots last year.

Not sure it matters to you but you should know that.

Zahra29:


Lol the torry has gone viral, sky news, everywhere.

The report also said that they found a woman hiding under the bed who was arrested for illegal entry to the UK.

They seized lots of designer goods as well
So silly paying all that money and committing immigration fraud instead of just doing a bit of studying to a simple test - and one that you can retake as many times as needed.

Then when the system becomes stricter and they start profiling black folk, people will cry racism.

Did you really type this, Zahra?

So if a Black person does something wrong, all Black people should be subjected to stricter scrutiny for that reason?

Are you proposing the same for everyone else - White, British, east European, Indian, whomever - one of your people commits a crime, then they're all to be considered potential criminals?

jedisco:


I'm yet to see any definition of expat that isnt synonymous to migrant. The only difference is that migrants from western nations prefer to call themselves expats.

One needs to understand Z to engage. Now she's waxing lyrical about why I am particular about the definition. Trying to drag things off tangent just because I asked her one simple question.

Expatriate is different from migrant, they are not even synonymic so it's pointless trying to blur one into the other. They are as different as temporary and permanent

Cyberknight:


Did you really type this, Zahra?

So if a Black person does something wrong, all Black people should be subjected to stricter scrutiny for that reason?

Are you proposing the same for everyone else - White, British, east European, Indian, whomever - one of your people commits a crime, then they're all to be considered potential criminals?

Unfortunately that's how the system works - to place greater scrutiny - especially when it's viral news.

About 15 or so years ago, Indians/Asians as a group were massively profiled by the Home Office because a number of them had been caught cheating on the English tests and attending bogus language colleges. It was headline news at the time and loads of Indians/Asians got caught up in the aftermath and even unfairly deported.

Black boys have been/are profiled by the police because a number of them have been involved in high profile knife crime over the years.

Eastern Europeans have been profiled for benefit fraud even though the majority are honest.

Even disabled people were placed under great scrutiny at one point because the government believed that some were faking their disabilities.

Unfortunately when you're an ethnic minority, the actions of a prominent few tend to impact on the majority in some way. Call it stereotyping, racism, profiling, (which is all wrong bdw) but the fact is that's the average human behaviour. And I'm pretty sure the Home Office would be paying greater attention to certain groups going forward.

Zahra29:


Unfortunately that's how the system works - to place greater scrutiny - especially when it's viral news.

About 15 or so years ago, Indians/Asians as a group were massively profiled by the Home Office because a number of them had been caught cheating on the English tests and attending bogus language colleges. It was headline news at the time and loads of Indians/Asians got caught up in the aftermath and even unfairly deported.

Black boys have been/are profiled by the police because a number of them have been involved in high profile knife crime over the years.

Eastern Europeans have been profiled for benefit fraud even though the majority are honest.

Even disabled people were placed under great scrutiny at one point because the government believed that some were faking their disabilities.

Unfortunately when you're an ethnic minority, the actions of a prominent few tend to impact on the majority in some way. Call it stereotyping, racism, profiling, (which is all wrong bdw) but the fact is that's the average human behaviour. And I'm pretty sure the Home Office would be paying greater attention to certain groups going forward.

Zahra, my hat's off to you. You've just attempted to gaslight me with a whole 12.5 kg cylinder of NLNG gas.

We both know I'm not talking about the system and whatever the institutional racists come up with, which you've just discoursed upon at some length. At issue is your bolded assertion which both denotes and connotes that you believe that Black people deserve whatever befalls them in of increased scrutiny following this fraud perpetuated by two Black women.

Zahra29:

And I'm pretty sure the Home Office would be paying greater attention to certain groups going forward.

Nobody said that’s not how the system works - that’s the whole point. We know it is racism and will call it out as any sensible and moral person should because it makes zero sense to be held responsible for the actions of someone just because they are Nigerian like me and 200 million other people.

The point is that you said that people who speak up against it are “crying racism”, dismissing it and making it seem that they ought to accept responsibility for being profiled for no other reason than that they share a nationality with this person?

From your own examples, would you have told a group of elderly people that if they speak up about being discriminated against based on the actions of a random few people whom they share nothing with other than being disabled, that they were “crying discrimination”?

No you would not have, and it’s clear why now.

To be clear, the point is not what society thinks or how society behaves, it is that your comment has shown how you think, no matter how much you try to dress it up in ‘independent critical thought’.

Goodenoch:




It is well documented that very many british people have been going around the world for sex tourism (including preying on children), but I’m sure you wouldn’t say that a British person who says they ought not to be profiled based on that, is “crying racism.

Actually British/european men of a certain age are regularly profiled/scrutinised/ given a raised eyebrow when they visit certain islands and destinations that are known for sex tourism, especially with underage girls. There have even been sting operations set up to try and catch potential offenders and protect vulnerable, under age girls. Sometimes innocent men get profiled but it's unfortunately down to the heavily publicised, nefarious acts of the few. That's life.

Common sense should tell you that not all profiling is bad or racist. Profiling is used in a host of scenarios. If intelligence profiling causes the police to stop and search a boy who was then found to be carrying a knife and on his way to attack someone, then I'll be very glad that he was profiled and a life spared.

There is obviously a difference between intelligence profiling/increased scrutiny and racism/blanket stereotyping which I'm not condoning - even though you're always so eager to think I do.

For the rest of my thoughts, please see my response to Cyberknight.

Zahra29:


Actually British/european men of a certain age are regularly profiled/scrutinised/ given a raised eyebrow when they visit certain islands and destinations that are known for sex tourism, especially with underage girls. There have even been sting operations set up to try and catch potential offenders and protect vulnerable, under age girls. Sometimes innocent men get profiled but it's unfortunately down to the heavily publicised, nefarious acts of the few. That's life.

Common sense should tell you that not all profiling is bad or racist. Profiling is used in a host of scenarios. If intelligence profiling causes the police to stop and search a boy who was then found to be carrying a knife and on his way to attack someone, then I'll be very glad that he was profiled and a life spared.

There is obviously a difference between intelligence profiling/increased scrutiny and racism/blanket stereotyping which I'm not condoning - even though you're always so eager to think I do.

For the rest of my thoughts, please see my response to Cyberknight.

These red herring arguments are ridiculous. Let me break this down in more simple :

First, the point is not that sometimes people don’t get profiled for other things. It’s that if an innocent person were to voice out about being unfairly profiled, they would never be told (assuming the person they’re speaking with has common sense) that they are “crying discrimination” because they have every right to speak against being unfairly targeted and not to be burdened by random peoples crimes.

Second, nobody has said all profiling is bad or racist. The point was profiling based on nationality and nothing else. Your point about intelligence profiling leading to the prevention of knife crime doesn’t make sense because police “intelligence” implies credible information, and not just “that’s a Nigerian/black person/Eastern European/disabled person) so let’s arrest them because another Nigerian/black person/Eastern European/disabled person was caught committing a crime at some point”. That is racism and not anything to do with intelligence, just like any attempt to equate the two.

Cyberknight:


Zahra, my hat's off to you. You've just attempted to gaslight me with a whole 12.5 kg cylinder of NLNG gas.

We both know I'm not talking about the system and whatever the institutional racists come up with, which you've just discoursed upon at some length. At issue is your bolded assertion which both denotes and connotes that you believe that Black people deserve whatever befalls them in of increased scrutiny following this fraud perpetuated by two Black women.

What is NLNG?

I certainly didn't say the bolded anywhere in my comment. You've projected your own interpretation into my comment and obviously want to continue believing it,which is your prerogative. But I don't have to keep defending myself against your thoughts.

The fact is that there is likely to be greater scrutiny/profiling going forward, that's just how the system works, and it's not my fault. The end.

Goodenoch:


These red herring arguments are ridiculous. Let me break this down in more simple :

First, the point is not that sometimes people don’t get profiled for other things. It’s that if an innocent person were to voice out about being unfairly profiled, they would never be told (assuming the person they’re speaking with has common sense) that they are “crying discrimination” because they have every right to speak against being unfairly targeted and not to be burdened by random peoples crimes.

Second, nobody has said all profiling is bad or racist. The point was profiling based on nationality and nothing else. Your point about intelligence profiling leading to the prevention of knife crime doesn’t make sense because police “intelligence” implies credible information, and not just “that’s a Nigerian/black person/Eastern European/disabled person) so let’s arrest them because another Nigerian/black person/Eastern European/disabled person was caught committing a crime at some point”. That is racism and not anything to do with intelligence, just like any attempt to equate the two.

European men of a certain age who are profiled when visiting certain South Asian islands because of the likes of Gary Glitter = racism

White British football fans who are profiled or even banned when visiting an European city due to previous occurrences of football hooliganism by other white British football fans = racism

Eastern Europeans who are subjected to greater scrutiny because of offending benefit fraudsters from Poland and Bulgaria = racism

All the above, and many more, are regular occurrences. You're right, it's all racism. Unfortunately, the above is also a fact of life. And most profiling is covert in any case. Most people don't even know that they are being scrutinised unless they are stopped, and the majority will not be stopped.

To the bolded, nobody said they shouldn't speak out and protest. If innocent, you have every right.

Zahra29:


Lol the torry has gone viral, sky news, everywhere.

The report also said that they found a woman hiding under the bed who was arrested for illegal entry to the UK.

They seized lots of designer goods as well
So silly paying all that money and committing immigration fraud instead of just doing a bit of studying to a simple test - and one that you can retake as many times as needed.

Then when the system becomes stricter and they start profiling black folk, people will cry racism.

Are you for real with this write up

Zahra29:


European men of a certain age who are profiled when visiting certain South Asian islands because of the likes of Gary Glitter = racism

White British football fans who are profiled or even banned when visiting an European city due to previous occurrences of football hooliganism by other white British football fans = racism

Eastern Europeans who are subjected to greater scrutiny because of offending benefit fraudsters from Poland and Bulgaria = racism

All the above, and many more, are regular occurrences. You're right, it's all racism. Unfortunately, the above is also a fact of life. And most profiling is covert in any case. Most people don't even know that they are being scrutinised unless they are stopped, and the majority will not be stopped.

To the bolded, nobody said they shouldn't speak out and protest. If innocent, you have every right.

This is my last word on this because you keep dodging the point as usual and it's tiresome now.

The issue is not that those things don't happen to other groups or that it's not 'normal'. Do you think anyone here needs you to tell them that any time a crime is committed by a Nigerian or a black person, it reflects badly on them and may have repercussions for them, especially after the riots? Do you think we don't all feel apprehension whenever a crime is announced knowing that even if 10 crimes had been committed by other people, the one by an immigrant or black person will embolden certain people to say/do harmful things?

Just take a look at the shooting in Sweden. Even before any announcement was made about the shooter's identity, there was a lot of commentary about how it's an immigrant or it's a muslim or whatever. We now know it wasn't and that actually it was someone targeting immigrants, so as usual the commentary has cooled off, but many of those initial posts are still circulating on Twitter, Telegram and elsewhere, emboldening the next person who's going to arm themselves to take potshots at immigrants, or try to set fire to a hotel housing asylum seekers.

We know it's a thing. You're not providing any insight as you seem to think, by saying that it's a fact of life.

The point is that you saying that people will begin 'crying racism'. Your use of that phrase makes it clear you think people who do call it out as being racist ought to somehow share responsibility for it. That phrase was racist. That's the point.

Goodenoch:


But it would, in fact, be racism to profile black folk on the basis of the actions of this person and however many clients she had.

I had never heard about anyone impersonating people in that exam. I didn’t know it was possible or that it would even be something anyone would consider for the same reasons you stated. Nothing I’ve seen indicates that it’s widespread or common or even beyond this person.

Therefore, it would be the very definition of racism to profile people based on it. You should reflect on why you can’t see that and instead are saying people who call it racism would be “crying racism”

It is well documented that very many british people have been going around the world for sex tourism (including preying on children), but I’m sure you wouldn’t say that a British person who says they ought not to be profiled based on that, is “crying racism”.

Whether intended or not, this behavior of ascribing responsibility for the bad behaviors of individuals to a collective group and using it to justify abuses is the very essence of racism, and it’s the same thing you have always done. There’s a clear line from this sort of thinking to the legitimization of the attacks on non-white people during the riots last year.

Not sure it matters to you but you should know that.

It used to be a massive prob, many exam centres were closed down because the exam centres were also involved in helping these crooks. i'm actually surprised that this is still going on because HO came down heavily on it after a documentary was done about it.

Goodenoch:


This is my last word on this because you keep dodging the point as usual and it's tiresome now.

The issue is not that those things don't happen to other groups or that it's not 'normal'. Do you think anyone here needs you to tell them that any time a crime is committed by a Nigerian or a black person, it reflects badly on them and may have repercussions for them, especially after the riots? Do you think we don't all feel apprehension whenever a crime is announced knowing that even if 10 crimes had been committed by other people, the one by an immigrant or black person will embolden certain people to say/do harmful things?

Just take a look at the shooting in Sweden. Even before any announcement was made about the shooter's identity, there was a lot of commentary about how it's an immigrant or it's a muslim or whatever. We now know it wasn't and that actually it was someone targeting immigrants, so as usual the commentary has cooled off, but many of those initial posts are still circulating on Twitter, Telegram and elsewhere, emboldening the next person who's going to arm themselves to take potshots at immigrants, or try to set fire to a hotel housing asylum seekers.

We know it's a thing. You're not providing any insight as you seem to think, by saying that it's a fact of life.

The point is that you saying that people will begin 'crying racism'. Your use of that phrase makes it clear you think people who do call it out as being racist ought to somehow share responsibility for it. That phrase was racist. That's the point.

Your comments frequently comes across overtly emotional and one-sided and tbh outside of this forum, many of your takes would be considered unreasonable by many.

I don't agree with you but I've deleted the "offending" phrase for the sake of peace. Please rest

justwise:


It used to be a massive prob, many exam centres were closed down because the exam centres were also involved in helping these crooks. i'm actually surprised that this is still going on because HO came down heavily on it after a documentary was done about it.

I think you are referring to the English language exams not the Life in England test, many Indians were targeted when the Home Office cracked down

Zahra29:


Your comments frequently comes across overtly emotional and one-sided and tbh outside of this forum, many of your takes would be considered unreasonable by many.

I don't agree with you but I've deleted the "offending" phrase for the sake of peace. Please rest

I consider it a thing of pride that my posts are considered unreasonable by someone who thinks like you.

Zahra29:


I think you are referring to the English language exams not the Life in England test, many Indians were targeted when the Home Office cracked down

Yes the same with English language and driving theory test, not just Indians alone, Eastern Europeans, the Chinese were also targeted. It was a widespread problem then.

Goodenoch:


I consider it a thing of pride that my posts are considered unreasonable by someone who thinks like you.

That's exactly how I feel when you, Jedi Jedi and your unmerry gang pile up against me

justwise:


Yes the same with English language and driving theory test, not just Indians alone, Eastern Europeans, the Chinese were also targeted. It was a widespread problem then.

I vaguely the driving theory test scams. Is that when they changed the provider to Pearson?

Lol when they were always busting marriage scams on the news, right before they said I do at the registry, and the brides were usually always Polish.

What's that saying - problem doesn't finish 😂

Hello everyone. I have few questions to ask.

1. I’m in my late 20s, what are the chances of getting ission for a BSC degree program? I don’t have any degree certificate.

2. I want to study Computer Science, what are the chances of getting ission when I don’t have computer science in my Weac?

3. Which university/city do you think is affordable,
including living expenses?

4.I’m a web developer, technical writer and a video editor,can that sustain me over there, or is there any other job you’ll advise i learn so I can fund my 2nd year tuition?

5. Is getting a car important for day to day activities?

I will gladly appreciate any kind response

Zahra29:


I vaguely the driving theory test scams. Is that when they changed the provider to Pearson?

Lol when they were always busting marriage scams on the news, right before they said I do at the registry, and the brides were usually always Polish.

What's that saying - problem doesn't finish 😂

I think they changed to Pearson as many centres were engaging in fraud. Sham marriage fraud was something else, I don’t see them stopping it though, yes they managed to reduce it, not just Polish nationals, pretty much the whole Eastern Europe were deep neck in it